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New owner 1985 Carver 3607
- mrac2016
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New owner 1985 Carver 3607
I purchased my 3607 about 3 months ago. This is my first purchase of a cruiser. I am doing the live aboard thing and I am loving it. However, the weather is turning and keeping the cabin heated is more of an issue than I anticipated. The previous owner said that the space heater they used was sufficient, but I am not finding that to be the case. I tried using additional space heaters, but that keeps tripping the breakers. Anyone have a suggestion. Thanks, in advance.
Mike
- waybomb
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- Vessel Info: 1995 Boston Whaler Rage15
1987 3697 Carver Mariner
1988 Cougar 46 Kevlar Vee offshore
1969 15' Glasspar / 1967 Johnson Electromatic 85
1996 Boston Whaler Rage 15 - Location: Saint Joseph,Mi
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Re: New owner 1985 Carver 3607
I don't see a space heater keeping the boat warm.
The only safe way that I know of to heat a boat that big is installed reverse cycle ac.
Fred
1969 Glaspar Avalon /1969 Johnson Electromatic 85
1987 Carver Mariner
1988 Cougar Kevlar 46' with triple blown 572 ci
1995 Boston Whaler Rage
Past - 1988 2807, 1989 4207 Aft
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Re: New owner 1985 Carver 3607
Do you spend the winter in the water?
- RGrew176
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Re: New owner 1985 Carver 3607
2022 Stingray 182 SC
2004 Past Commodore
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Re: New owner 1985 Carver 3607
RGrew176 wrote:Source of the post Those who winter aboard here in Michigan where I live all wrap their boats in clear plastic much like shrinkwrap to help in the heating of their boats. If I get a chance I will go to my marina and get a pic for you to give you an idea.
+1
Much the same for boats in all year here along lake Ontario, some are tarps, some plastic, some actually shrink.
- km1125
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Re: New owner 1985 Carver 3607
At the end and beginning of the season we also use an electric blanket. Only a couple hundred watts and makes sleeping very comfortable. Not as useful in the daytime though.
The difference between a space heater and a reverse-heat A/C... a good space heater on HIGH will provide about 5,000 BTUs of heat with 12 Amps of A/C. A reverse-heat A/C can deliver about 16,000 BTUs with that same 12 amp (but usually even less... more like 9 or 10). Since you're using space heaters I'm assuming you don't have A/C installed on the boat (like me) and you only have one 30 Amp power inlet (like me). You could add another 30A inlet just to power your heating and cooling needs. A 'proper' marine reverse-heat A/C would do OK, but you also need to make sure there is PLENTY of cooling water flowing, as it can freeze up if not flowing enough. If your water temp is below 40, it makes it harder to generate heat but you have a LOT of water surrounding you with heat... you just need to move enough of it through the system.
Tripping breakers might be caused when the water heater kicks in.... in that case, turn the water heater off until about an hour before you need it.
Now, instead of space heaters, think about the portable air conditioners that come with heat. I bought one last year so that the dog could be kept comfortable during hot summer days in the cabin. I bought it used for $200. I built a platform for it on the dinette bench so it would sit higher and plumbed the air discharge through the portlight above the dinette table. IT WORKS GREAT. I also noticed that it provides PLENTY of heat in the late season cool nights. Again, you could put it on a dedicated circuit to handle the continuous power, but we just have it plugged into an outlet and have to manage power when we want to use the coffeemaker or microwave. I have some pics somewhere that I can post. It generates about 16,000 BTU and has a much more powerful fan then the space heaters.
Oh, and second all the comments about shrink or tarp, especially if it's clear... you add a layer of insulation that way and you get a nice 'greenhouse' effect on sunny days too!!
- AaHubb
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Re: New owner 1985 Carver 3607
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- RGrew176
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Re: New owner 1985 Carver 3607
The one advantage to the wall heaters is they are much quieter than the reverse cycle system. I keep a box fan onboard to move air. I like having 2 options for heat.
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- km1125
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Re: New owner 1985 Carver 3607
I used an old portlight to cut the hole and cut the hinges off it. I put some aluminum brackets that hook under the existing hinges of the portlight to keep it tight to the top, then used the regular clamps to hold the bottom. You can remove it and just fasten down the proper one for watertight integrity. It cools and heat and has its own thermostat. It also has a "night mode" which slows the fan down so it's quieter.
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