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Adding Batteries and Inverter?
- Marty
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Adding Batteries and Inverter?
I want to add power to my 326 aft simply for a little extra longevity on the hook to run lights in the evening, perhaps and couple hours of tv in the evening and make a cup of coffee in the am. My boat is located at Bayport in Midland and I have had two quotes to do this professionally 1 quote was to add 4 - 6V's with inverter, new charger etc and the installed quote was just shy of $10K. So I then had them quote the above with 4-6V's with separate charger etc and it was $5K. Way too much in my opinion. The quote included isolating the 2 - 12v's as starters only as well which currently these double as starters and house. Boat has a separate starter battery for the Genny so I am fine there.
My plan is to add 2 - 12V's to the existing ones so I will have 2 on each side to double as starters and house and I plan to add 1 - 6V under the counter in the kitchen and run an eliminator 2000W inverter simply for power to the TV and coffer maker when needed which will also be located there. Would have a separate smart charger to charge the 6V when plugged into shore power or running the Genny.
I know this is a little bush league but based on the quotes i have received this do it yourself plan is far more economical and 1 that I can tackle.
Other than the obvious that I should have separate house/starters any potential problems???
Thanks in advance
- g36
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Re: Adding Batteries and Inverter?
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- bud37
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Re: Adding Batteries and Inverter?
Some thought needs to be given as to where you put batteries, as they need to be safely charged, and off gas during these events, so ventilation is key.
Was this quote from their people or an outside guy if you don't mind me asking ?
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Re: Adding Batteries and Inverter?
Some additional considerations are battery placement as the DC cabling can get expensive, especially connected to big battery banks. Ensure you have plenty of ventilation for your inverter
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- Midnightsun
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Re: Adding Batteries and Inverter?
That being said dual 6v or better yet quadruple 6v is without question the best bank for the buck. Breakfast lunch and supper you run the genny for the short period it takes to make coffee, boil water, cook a meal, cool things down a bit while at the same time adding a bit of juice back as opposed to drawing the bank severely down running an inverter.
Inverters are great but small ones are the most beneficial in our applications IMHO. Get a pure sine wave not modified sine wave as some electronics won't work, have even seen coffee machines not function due to the digital part on them not liking the modified wave! I use a single 400W inverter that does all my entertainment system plus a single 110v outlet which comes in handy for those items that need 110 such as charging a laptop and I tapped off of this to charge my Dyson vac 24/7.
To add a 4 battery 6v bank and a small inverter with wiring and misc connectors will set you back around $2000 cdn on the high side. Shop around a bit and you could easily drop this down to $1500. Some Costco stores carry 6v in Canada, definitely a good buy there.
- buster53
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Re: Adding Batteries and Inverter?
2 new batteries, new TV and replacement LED lightbulbs...$600 maybe. And the best part, no need to hire someone to do this. Easily DIY.
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Re: Adding Batteries and Inverter?
I am even careful when adding other items such as a clock. I am so used to projection clocks when I sleep I have a hard time without one. I look up what they run off of which will be printed on the 110v wall wart. Found one the works from 5vdc. Hmmm, this is standard USB voltage, buy or make an adapter and you are all set. Same goes for my entertainment remote control. Love Harmony remote, guess what, the wall wart is 5vdc. My aft cabin TV wall wart was 12vdc and my weather centre is also 5vdc. . That being said I obviously have usb connections all over the place or have converted 12vdc to 5vdc via a drok transformer (there really handy by the way). Easy to convert any 12vcd power to USB with a socket like this. https://www.amazon.ca/Blue-Sea-Systems-Charger-Socket/dp/B074JZMS83/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_263_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&refRID=E4Q2ND0A32PFQ2TZQ3T8
Or a direct connection with an adapter like this. https://www.amazon.ca/Converter-DROK-Waterproof-Transformer-Motorcycle/dp/B01DBQP7OS/ref=sr_1_cc_6?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1550778991&sr=1-6-catcorr&keywords=drok+5v
Bottom line is to plan a little before purchasing any electrical device you want to use on board.
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- Marty
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Re: Adding Batteries and Inverter?
Not trying to sewer anyone but I was told this company does exceptional work, however right now I have 2 - 12V that double as starters and house and a separate 12V for the 6.5KW genny.
I asked for a proposal to isolate the 2 - 12 V's as starters for each engine and a bank of 6V's to power the house with an inverter.
1 x Sterling 134 isolator 2 alt 3 banks $599.00
1 x Magnum 2812 inverter/charger $2499.00
1 x RC 50 remote ( Magnum) $229.95
1 x Battery monitor kit (Magnum) $219.95
1 x BSS5510E Battery switch ( both engines) $94.99
1 x BSS 6006 Battery switch ( house) $45.99
1 x Type T fuse block (Inverter) $76.99
1 x 350A fuse (inverter) $57.99
5 x 70 Breakers ( Alternators and Batt banks) $76.99ea $384.95
1 x Selector/isolator switch( main elec pnl) $329.00
1 x BSS2300 buss bar ( main pnl neutrals) $28.99
3 x BSS2104 Buss bars (battery cables pos and neg)
149.00ea $447.00
10/3 cable ( AC power to panel) $2.89ft as required
4/0 cable ( Battery supply) $16.99ft as required
#4 cable ( engine charging to isolator) 3.12ft as required
1 x 4 battery tray custom (house batteries) $399.00
4 x Interstate 6VDC deep cycle batt $249.00ea $996.00
4 x Core charge 25.00 per battery $100.00
Misc $100.00
Sub not incl cable $6608.80
Labour 22-26 hrs @ $120.00 per
again my goal is to have a little more house power in general and to be able to run a tv for a couple hours a day and make a cup of coffee without having to start the genny if i'd rather not...
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