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Is the 3807 with gas engines considered underpowered?
- terkim99
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Is the 3807 with gas engines considered underpowered?
- waybomb
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1987 3697 Carver Mariner
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1969 15' Glasspar / 1967 Johnson Electromatic 85
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Re: Is the 3807 with gas engines considered underpowered?
I never had a 3807, but people I know enjoyed their 3807 boats on Lake Michigan and never complained to me about any issues. I've heard they are good vessels.
Fred
1969 Glaspar Avalon /1969 Johnson Electromatic 85
1987 Carver Mariner
1988 Cougar Kevlar 46' with triple blown 572 ci
1995 Boston Whaler Rage
Past - 1988 2807, 1989 4207 Aft
- buster53
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Re: Is the 3807 with gas engines considered underpowered?
Adequate power for some, underpowered for others. I can’t imagine a 4207 with gas.
I currently have a 356 with fuel injected 8.1 Crusaders. Plenty of power and way better fuel economy.
- km1125
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Re: Is the 3807 with gas engines considered underpowered?
I had a 3607 with the 350HP Crusaders and it would do ~28MPH top speed and cruise easily in the 22 MPH range. I'm surprised at Buster's comment above with the 14-15kts speed, I would have expected closer to 17-18.
- buster53
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Re: Is the 3807 with gas engines considered underpowered?
km1125 wrote:Source of the post I wouldn't think that the 3807 would be that much harder to push around than a 3607, but I certainly wouldn't want to have gas in a 4207.
I had a 3607 with the 350HP Crusaders and it would do ~28MPH top speed and cruise easily in the 22 MPH range. I'm surprised at Buster's comment above with the 14-15kts speed, I would have expected closer to 17-18.
If I recall, and it’s been 11-12 years, we cruised around 3200 and it was about 15 knots. But like I said, 95% of the time, we ran hull speed…just way too expensive to get up on plane. The difference was 1 mpg vs 1/2 mpg.
My current 356, I cruise at 3100, which gives me 19 knots. Top speed…30 knots = 35 mph.
- Cooler
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Re: Is the 3807 with gas engines considered underpowered?
( All weather people have to say this on air, near lakes )
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Re: Is the 3807 with gas engines considered underpowered?
- bud37
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Re: Is the 3807 with gas engines considered underpowered?
terkim99 wrote:Source of the post We are looking to upgrade to a little more space than our current 3607. I have read that the 4207 with gas engines is underpowered, especially in rough waters. We boat on Lake Michigan. Would the 3807 also be considered underpowered? We are not looking to race the boat but would like to safely make it back to port if we hit rough waters.
I have come to understand that around 38'....20000# and up is the tipping point for gas to diesel especially with aft cabin, flat aft section high off the water designs. Of course there are some newer design gas engines now with gobs of HP.
I remember a story about an old Lake huron commercial tug/fishing captain. When asked how he got thru the inlet when the lake was rough , his answer was, " I don't go out in that, the boat stays in port." Take from that what you will.
Good luck with your search.
- Georgeviking
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Re: Is the 3807 with gas engines considered underpowered?
Gets right up on plane, only have seven hours run time on one nice day so can’t say how powerful battling sea conditions but sense she would do fine..
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