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Re: Ontario new regulations of camping on water.

Postby Viper » March 2nd, 2023, 8:39 pm

Tireless wrote:Source of the post.... My hope is that this law refers to renovated barges specifically. There is a guy who floated shipping containers on pontoons. I think he has three of them. In the summer he pulls these out onto the waterways and secures it to an island just off the Trent/Severn waterway. It looks like shit and I understand why a cottager would be upset with that. The municipality has been fighting with the guy for a couple of years and he still does it. My understanding is that he is trying to build and sell these to people....
I think that case has a great deal to do with this legislation too. There's also a guy that spent the summer in an old beat up custom made thing in Couchiching right in front of cottages. I get their concern, I mean the guy never moved so how was he dealing with his holding tank waste? Was he even using his holding tank?!

My concern here is that as usual, instead of taking a specific targeted approach, the government wants to implement legislation that can be used against anyone. If we keep allowing them to do that, we'll be left with very few freedoms in this country.

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Re: Ontario new regulations of camping on water.

Postby Tireless » March 3rd, 2023, 5:37 pm

I have reviewed the actual proposal and it is very broad in its definitions. The proposal was put forward by The Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry to amend Ontario Regulation161/17 of the Public Lands Act. Does some MNRF employee have a cottage somewhere.

Hopefully the Province doesn't buy into this.

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Re: Ontario new regulations of camping on water.

Postby bud37 » March 3rd, 2023, 7:25 pm

The Marina Association has a big lobby group as I understand it, so if there would be any conflict I am pretty sure they will be on it, as something like that could have industry consequences...... :popcorn:
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Re: Ontario new regulations of camping on water.

Postby Viper » March 3rd, 2023, 9:04 pm

That would be nice but taxing the hell out of new builds had huge consequences and put countless builders out of business despite the Marina Association's lobbying against it. That was a major blow to the industry that affected a huge number of people.
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Re: Ontario new regulations of camping on water.

Postby bud37 » March 3rd, 2023, 9:52 pm

That may have been a little different situation being years ago....I believe they may have more clout now especially with all the consolidation that has been going on......big enterprises now. Lets hope that will be the case.
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Re: Ontario new regulations of camping on water.

Postby km1125 » March 4th, 2023, 10:19 am

Viper wrote:Source of the post That would be nice but taxing the hell out of new builds had huge consequences and put countless builders out of business despite the Marina Association's lobbying against it. That was a major blow to the industry that affected a huge number of people.

Yea, almost like the "luxury tax" we had in the USA a couple decades ago. Was supposed to reap money from the "rich" but probably ended up putting more people on unemployment and destroying business, especially in the marine industry.
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Re: Ontario new regulations of camping on water.

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Re: Ontario new regulations of camping on water.

Postby pepmyster » March 7th, 2023, 6:33 am

I sent an email, will see what happens.
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Re: Ontario new regulations of camping on water.

Postby krawdad » March 7th, 2023, 4:44 pm

Having been a cottage owner as well as a long time boater, I can say that very many of the noisy partiers are in fact cottage owners. Smaller boats yes, and usually teenagers, but every bit as noisy as a group of cruisers rafted together. If you cut through the frivolous BS arguments, cottagers have only a single supportable and valid complaint ie: Wake from careless boaters. This damages their property however it could be entirely controlled by better enforcement of existing laws. Underlying everything, cottagers simply do not want to look at boats obscuring the million dollar views from their windows even if it's million dollar boats.
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Re: Ontario new regulations of camping on water.

Postby pepmyster » March 8th, 2023, 6:11 am

Registered for the 10am meeting. Going to be interesting. Funny how this happens today....
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