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New Owner 1998 Carver 405

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Vessel Info: 1998 Carver 405 Motor Yacht (42 ft)
Twin 7.4 MPI Mercs (454's) w/365 hrs
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New Owner 1998 Carver 405

Postby Serendipity » July 8th, 2018, 9:37 pm

Hello everyone, Michael here :usa:

I have a sea trial and survey this Tuesday on a 1998 405. Contract signed and price agree upon.

Engines are 7.4 MPI Merc 454's I am told. 365 and 367 hours but I am not sure on hp or if they are original to the boat which I hope to learn on the survey. 10E Kohler Generator with 611 hours but it may need repairs I understandand that will be looked at closer in the survey.

Engines on a monthly maintenance contract but guys I dont feel the boat has been used very much. I am paying an extra couple hundred to have compression checks ran. I am looking for 140 to 150 and anything under 120 I was told is going to need repairs soon? My mechanic shop stated with a closed cooling system he would be okay with simply replacing the water pump impellers while it was out for survey. As it is a salt water boat.

Risers, manifolds and elbows replaced November 2017.
New Bimini top and Eisenglass for the front but I am going to need to purchase the rear enclosure. I am not sure it has ever had a rear enclosure on the back as I dont find any snaps/rivets.

Boat has a new fridge freezer 2018 and I plan on having a bottom job while the boat is out for survey and getting ready to be shipped to me. What price should I expect on this bottom job. Several shipyards and lots of competition in the area instead of just one place. I know it may have blisters and repairs may be needed but your thoughts please.

I am going to use the boat on a reservoir that is 16 miles by 7 miles. Pretty much a place to ride the jet skis back to for my 17 year old daughter and her friends. I am 51 years old and I have been married forever (lol)
My thought is to put a tailgater dish on the radar arch and chill, watch some John Wayne movies and westerns because I watch almost no tv now/workaholic.

I am half way through the 447 posts regarding 405's.
It appears I already owe several of ya dinner for the knowledge, most notably Viper :beergood:

I was a automotive service and parts director for 25 years and now I flip houses and own an insurance agency for the past few years. I am looking forward to being a positive contributor to the forum.
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Topic author United States of America
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Vessel Info: 1998 Carver 405 Motor Yacht (42 ft)
Twin 7.4 MPI Mercs (454's) w/365 hrs
Location: Madison MS
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Re: New Owner 1998 Carver 405

Postby Serendipity » July 8th, 2018, 9:39 pm

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Re: New Owner 1998 Carver 405

Postby bud37 » July 8th, 2018, 10:03 pm

Welcome to the forum and Carver if all goes well....good luck with it...looks clean..
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Re: New Owner 1998 Carver 405

Postby RGrew176 » July 8th, 2018, 11:29 pm

Welcome Aboard. Hope all goes well and you have lots of fun aboard your yacht. Best of luck.
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Re: New Owner 1998 Carver 405

Postby km1125 » July 9th, 2018, 12:03 am

If you get the genset running, then use it A LOT. Most die from LACK of use.

Good luck on the purchase!

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Joined: June 28th, 2018, 9:31 am
Vessel Info: 1998 Carver 405 Motor Yacht (42 ft)
Twin 7.4 MPI Mercs (454's) w/365 hrs
Location: Madison MS
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Re: New Owner 1998 Carver 405

Postby Serendipity » July 9th, 2018, 1:10 am

bud37
Thank you for the welcome to the forum post

And I meant to post under the introduce yourself topic if the moderator can move my post over . :help:

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Re: New Owner 1998 Carver 405

Postby Viper » July 9th, 2018, 7:13 am

Welcome aboard Michael.

Those engines should be fine unless they ran the heck out of them. Make note on whether they hunt at start-up in idle. Not a big deal but common with those caused by a few minor things. Also note if you have to start them several times before they will keep running on their own without throttling up. Look for oil leaks under the engine. Your main concern is a leaking rear main crank seal. If they're doing a compression test, have them replace the spark plugs at the same time unless you know they've been done recently. Get the owner to agree to pay for them if the deal falls through. An oil analysis is recommended but be prepared for it to delay closing the contract a bit until the results are in. You may also want to do a cooling system pressure test as the exchangers are not cheap. Dial the shafts while she's out of the water, and change the anodes. Wiring is always a concern on salt water applications so pay close attention to that.

Of course the usual applies with structural concerns on any brand but the survey should hopefully catch the stuff that needs attention.

Good luck and keep us posted.
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Re: New Owner 1998 Carver 405

Postby g36 » July 9th, 2018, 9:10 am

i am one of the 405 owners here you'll love the boat. be happy to help. good luck and welcome to the forum.
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Re: New Owner 1998 Carver 405

Postby waybomb » July 9th, 2018, 12:08 pm

Welcome aboard!
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Serendipity
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Joined: June 28th, 2018, 9:31 am
Vessel Info: 1998 Carver 405 Motor Yacht (42 ft)
Twin 7.4 MPI Mercs (454's) w/365 hrs
Location: Madison MS
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Re: New Owner 1998 Carver 405

Postby Serendipity » July 9th, 2018, 10:56 pm

So Viper survey is tomorrow staring at 7am. They are going to make sure the engines do not hunt and peck at start up and that they start right up.
They are going to replace the spark plugs and if the survey goes well. I am going to have them do a bottom job on it while it is out and before they ship it. I understand the zincs and anodes will be new as well with the bottom job.
I ask for them to dial the shafts as well.

So who is the go to person or website for the back enclosure? Is there a possibility that someone has hard enclosed/windowed a 405 already as I really would like to A/C and Heat this back area if possible. I plan on using the boat year round, so I am really interested in a hard enclosure. I have a 400 sq ft portable a/c /heating unit I would simply set on the lower level platform because I know the salon a/c would not accomplish this task based on the forum post I have read.

So can you share some details with me about your 89 3807 Viper? Anything you have done to it that made you happier with it or made boating more pleasurable for you? :captain:

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