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Window leaks

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Window leaks

Postby Seif911 » April 29th, 2013, 5:11 pm

Hey all,
My boat is officially in it's slip. Yay!!! I see the water stains on the inside wood from the windows leaking. I spent a few hours digging out the gook out of the windows tracks and weep holes. They are still a little dirty and will probably need some scrubbing but I should be in better shape. What else do I need to do with these windows?

Do I need to caulk the tracks to the wood? What do you seal the weep holes with? Should I put a few dabs of paint in the holes or maybe jam some silicone in there? Am I better off pulling the inside wood off and maybe removing the tracks, clean them up and then recalls them back in?

They are not like the tracks I have seen others talk about. They are basically 2 slots of plastic. Anybody know where I can buy new tracks? That'd be nice to just replace them. I am afraid to pull them out. I am sure the plastic is brittle.
Thanks,
Steve

22' Godfrey Hurricane Fun Deck, Fiberglass hull, 175 HP, Deck boat
24' Chrysler Cruiseliner III (Lonestar), 120 HP, Aluminum Hull, Cabin, 1968
33' Carver Mariner, fiberglass hull, 520 HP, Yacht, 1977

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Re: Window leaks

Postby waybomb » April 29th, 2013, 7:38 pm

Wish I could help you out. The 3 carvers I've owned all had metal frames. And all leaked a little. I ended up unscrewing the fasteners, pulling the frame out a bit, cleaned out the old silicone, and rebedded them with new silicone. Leaks gone!
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Fred
1964 Barron Flatbottom with BBC Chevy
1969 Glaspar Avalon /1969 Johnson Electromatic 85
1987 Carver Mariner
1988 Cougar Kevlar 46' with triple blown 572s
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Re: Window leaks

Postby Seif911 » April 29th, 2013, 8:00 pm

Well that does help. The point I got from u is that u rebedded the tracks in silicone. I just need a backup plan in case they break when I remove them. I wonder where I could get the metal frames? Other wise maybe some sort of aluminum track. I'm going to start digging.
Thanks,
Steve

22' Godfrey Hurricane Fun Deck, Fiberglass hull, 175 HP, Deck boat
24' Chrysler Cruiseliner III (Lonestar), 120 HP, Aluminum Hull, Cabin, 1968
33' Carver Mariner, fiberglass hull, 520 HP, Yacht, 1977
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Re: Window leaks

Postby Seif911 » April 29th, 2013, 11:03 pm

I found some new track for the windows. It is called channel-mate window track. It is maybe $20/8', not too bad. I have to see my sizing before I order.
Thanks,
Steve

22' Godfrey Hurricane Fun Deck, Fiberglass hull, 175 HP, Deck boat
24' Chrysler Cruiseliner III (Lonestar), 120 HP, Aluminum Hull, Cabin, 1968
33' Carver Mariner, fiberglass hull, 520 HP, Yacht, 1977
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Re: Window leaks

Postby Seif911 » May 3rd, 2013, 10:00 am

Uggg...
The windows frames look so nice from the inside with all of the screws capped by wood plugs. It will not be easy to pull this framework apart and get it back in look just as good. Any suggestions? I am looking for an easy way but don't think I'll find it.
Thanks,
Steve

22' Godfrey Hurricane Fun Deck, Fiberglass hull, 175 HP, Deck boat
24' Chrysler Cruiseliner III (Lonestar), 120 HP, Aluminum Hull, Cabin, 1968
33' Carver Mariner, fiberglass hull, 520 HP, Yacht, 1977
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1964 Barron Flat bottom drag boat
A couple of dinghies
Location: Saint Joseph and Trenton, MI
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Re: Window leaks

Postby waybomb » May 3rd, 2013, 6:25 pm

You can take a drill with a phillips bit and a wood screw. Simply screw it into the plug, The plug will come out. You may have to clean up the hole a bit. Then loosen your screws, redo the window seals, screw everything up tight. You can get new wood plugs at any wood worker's supply shop, you can get them at a hardware store, or you can buy a plug maker and make your own.

Use wood glue, set them in so they stick out a bit, then when the glue is dry, get a very sharp wood chisel and scrape away the excess wood plug until flush. It will look like new if you take your time.
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Fred
1964 Barron Flatbottom with BBC Chevy
1969 Glaspar Avalon /1969 Johnson Electromatic 85
1987 Carver Mariner
1988 Cougar Kevlar 46' with triple blown 572s
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Past - 1988 2807, 1989 4207 Aft
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Re: Window leaks

Postby Seif911 » May 5th, 2013, 8:42 am

It sounds so easy I may just try it. Every time I think of the fast way to fix this, it worries me. The weep holes are the biggest problem. The water comes out of the tracks into a weep hole, which is basically a drilled hole into the wood. I believe there the water goes out but it all sits and leak in. I know the best way is to remove the bottom interior board, then the tracks, clean it, treat it, and silicon it back in. Just procrastinating the right way.
Thanks,
Steve

22' Godfrey Hurricane Fun Deck, Fiberglass hull, 175 HP, Deck boat
24' Chrysler Cruiseliner III (Lonestar), 120 HP, Aluminum Hull, Cabin, 1968
33' Carver Mariner, fiberglass hull, 520 HP, Yacht, 1977
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Re: Window leaks

Postby sonnyb » June 3rd, 2013, 10:48 am

i have the same problem with window leaks. my santa cruz has teak window frames and caulk just will not stick.. i,m restoring the boat but can,t make much progress because of continual leaks. i,m open to any suggestions.
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Vessel Info: 1987 3697 Carver Mariner
1988 Cougar 46 Kevlar Vee offshore
1969 15' Glaspar / 1969 Johnson Electrmatic 85
1964 Barron Flat bottom drag boat
A couple of dinghies
Location: Saint Joseph and Trenton, MI
Has thanked: 39 times
Been thanked: 279 times

Re: Window leaks

Postby waybomb » June 3rd, 2013, 1:26 pm

I'm no expert on sealing up wood. You say the caulk does not stick - have you tried "Boat Life" caulk. Not cheap, but that stuff sticks like crazy. You'll need acetone to get it off your fingers.

When we caulk anything, we line both exposed sides of the joint with tape. Do the caulking, run a finger down it to make it nice and round, then pull the tape off. Makes for a better-than-factory finish.
Thanks
Fred
1964 Barron Flatbottom with BBC Chevy
1969 Glaspar Avalon /1969 Johnson Electromatic 85
1987 Carver Mariner
1988 Cougar Kevlar 46' with triple blown 572s
http://s4.beta.photobucket.com/user/waybomb/library/
Past - 1988 2807, 1989 4207 Aft
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Re: Window leaks

Postby sonnyb » June 5th, 2013, 1:50 pm

thanks for the suggestion. we just had 2 good days or rain here and the boat in a lot wetter inside then outside. the leaks have been my hold-up. got a new short block just waiting to be put together and installed. but not much point if i can,t get the leaks stopped.

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