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Bilge Fans 86 Carver Aft Cabin

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Bilge Fans 86 Carver Aft Cabin

Postby jim&jerrie » May 9th, 2023, 2:17 pm

Hi all, I'm hopeful several of you can offer a solution to our bilge fan issue. We have two bilge fans for engine venting prior to starting or when needed. Both fans worked last year when boat was winterized and wrapped. They did not work when the boat was placed back in the water 3 weeks ago.

I disconnected the power and ground wires to the fans and checked voltage while switching both bilge fan switches independently on. With either switch on the wire leads to the bilge fans have 12+ volts.

I then thought, OK maybe the fans both stopped working. I connected each fan to one of the batteries in the boat and both immediately worked.

Next, I connected the fans back up and tried each switch. Fans did NOT work. Ok, scratching my head a little now.

With the fans connected I then checked the voltage again while independently turning on each fan switch. ZERO volts with the fans connected???

Why would I get a good volt reading with the fans disconnected but ZERO volts with the fans connected?
Is this a relay issue or possibly a ground issue?

I have a wiring diagram but I'm unsure what the relays look like or where I can find the common ground location for the bilge fans. (It appears that several components ground to a central location)

Also, the 12 volt panel has a switch to cut bilge fan power, but this was in the on position while performing my checks.

Any and all help is greatly appreciated!

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Re: Bilge Fans 86 Carver Aft Cabin

Postby km1125 » May 9th, 2023, 5:33 pm

You have a high resistance connection somewhere. 12V will show up through that high resistance, but when you put a load on it (the fan motor) then it drops to zero.

Cut the problem in half. Run a ground wire directly to the motor and see if that solves the problem (which tells you the high resistance connection in in the ground circuit), or start working on the positive side.

And the "switch" on the 12 volt panel is a circuit breaker to provide power to the blowers. It should be on all the time.

There are no relays in that circuit, just two separate switches that both go to the "hot" side of the blowers.

I think all the wiring from the blowers goes to the lower station first, so just start there with your troubleshooting (looking for the ground and the connection at the switch). Once you get that station working, the bridge should work OK too, or you can troubleshoot that separately.
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Re: Bilge Fans 86 Carver Aft Cabin

Postby jim&jerrie » May 13th, 2023, 7:47 am

Thank you for the helpful information! I will be back on the boat next weekend and will have a look. I'll provide an update then.
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Re: Bilge Fans 86 Carver Aft Cabin

Postby bud37 » May 13th, 2023, 10:19 am

A partially broken wire with say one strand still attached will do much the same thing........real bad corroded connections as well.....have a good look around, especially areas where recent work and big feet have been......good luck..
FWIW.....The above is just my opinion.

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