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Just bought 28' Riviera

Posted: December 13th, 2023, 3:13 pm
by oakridgeboater
Hello all,

I just joined this morning, after purchasing a 1985 Riviera via auction earlier today.
I had another post with photos submitted, but it has disappeared for unknown reasons.

So, as I say, I just bought this boat today. I haven't seen it, it's at the auction yard about 90 miles from me, in the Toronto area. I'm new to big boating so I would like some pointers. The boat has been winterized, would there be other things I should be doing over the winter and/or prior to launching it in the spring? I believe ensuring the bilge pump functions is a primary concern as well as the exhaust fans. Prior to starting engines in the spring is there a process to follow? Can I start engines up out of the water by hooking up an intake hose? I'd like to ensure all is good before dropping it in to the water not knowing if it will even turn over (auction said it was inspected and in good operating condition...but why would they say otherwise and cancel a sale).

There are no manuals with the unit, so I am looking for those as well. Service, user/operator manuals, brochures etc if anyone has a link or otherwise where I may be able to find such, would be appreciated.

Hour meter shows 114, although without yet seeing the full console I do not know what that meter regulates. Boat is on its own trailer, however it appears it is only secured with the bow winch on trailer. There is/are no tie downs to the rear of the trailer.

If fellow members could chime in with any assistance on what I should be doing as a new boater that would help. I'd really like to obtain manuals to become familiarized with it. Have any members come across common issues with this model?

Thanks again for any help!

Re: Just bought 28' Riviera

Posted: December 13th, 2023, 8:07 pm
by km1125
Those models are not typically trailerable boats. You might use the trailer for off-season storage, but I'm not sure I'd count on it for much over-the-road travelling. If you were going to do that, I'd spend a LOT of time going through the trailer to make sure it was going to be up to the task! Securing the boat to the trailer is an issue, as (like I said) they're not really designed to be trailered. There really should be some kind of strapping on the aft section and down to the trailer, but that can be a temporary one if the trailing is limited.

On the manuals. There will be a manual for the boat, but it's pretty generic. There will be separate manuals for virtually anything ON the boat, like the engines, transmissions, electronics, plumbing systems, etc, and many of those can be found online. You need to find out exactly what is on the boat now, because many things could have changed over the years. You need to go there and do a pretty thorough "survey to find out what the model and serial number are on all the equipment so you can track down the correct manuals and any parts that might be needed.

Yes, you can start the engines will the boat out of the water, but you do need to supply some water (and enough water) to do so. That will give you some confidence that the engines will start (and that everything is hooked up OK for them to start) before you get launched. But it won't really tell you much more than that regarding their condition or reliability.

DEFINITELY plan on replacing the raw water impellers before you launch. After launch and running the engines for a short bit, I'd also replace the oil in the engines and transmissions so that you KNOW when all this stuff is done and not rely on someone just telling you when they THINK it was done. Bad impellers are one of the MOST COMMON problems for engine overheats and ruined weekend for boat owner who take on a used boat.

Re: Just bought 28' Riviera

Posted: December 14th, 2023, 6:00 am
by pepmyster
Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Just bought 28' Riviera

Posted: December 14th, 2023, 2:40 pm
by waybomb
Welcome aboard and congrats!
As to starting the engines, it's been winterized. Don't do it now!
Our first boat was a Riviera.
Engine room access is a challenge.
Plan all your driveline work all at once. Then pull the chairs and all the covers so it's wide open. Makes things so much easier.

Re: Just bought 28' Riviera

Posted: December 14th, 2023, 4:26 pm
by bud37
Welcome to the forum....I always liked them, was looking at one not long ago but the boss said NO MORE BOATS .. :-D

Re: Just bought 28' Riviera

Posted: December 15th, 2023, 11:20 am
by Cooler
Great live aboard vessels. I would advise you to proceed with caution. Auction yards are limited to what a seller is disclosing to them. Last year, a gentleman asked me to assess a purchase he made at auction, and the "good condition" Carver he bought had 2 cracked engine blocks, a water tank that was split along the top, and more serious issues. Needless to say, the repairs would have cost 5 times the vessel value. The auction yard did return his money, but he was out the transportation costs and yard storage expense. He spent over $4,000 for nothing. His wife is still "reminding" him of a bad experience. Not saying this is going to happen to you, but you should be aware that it is possible to buy a boat and have it cost way more the the actual boat value. You may want to consider having a marine mechanic start those engines before you move it. 8-) er

Re: Just bought 28' Riviera

Posted: December 16th, 2023, 3:36 pm
by oakridgeboater
Thanks for the heads up. I've already picked up the boat yesterday, and just went inside today to look around. It's a used boat and needs some interior touch ups, but doesn't appear to be in too bad a shape for 38 years old.

The seller sent me photos of his trip up the Trent locks this summer and there's current lock stickers on the windows so it was at least operating this summer.

I didn't locate any Carver operating manuals, only the "engines and drive systems" Article B-1, about 15 pages.
I searched online and here, but cannot locate any info regarding winterizing the boat, just the engines. I did discover that some(?) Riviera's have the hot water heater pre-heated with the engine coolant and there's a procedure to drain that system. What about the head holding tank, on board water tank and pump system? Are there drain petcocks for this? I have no idea where to look for these.

The engine manual shows them to be Mercruiser 230 or 260. I would suspect the serial numbers will define which it is.

Anyone on the site have a copy/link of the manual and/or info on where to find the tanks and drain petcocks??

Re: Just bought 28' Riviera

Posted: December 16th, 2023, 6:35 pm
by Jigjag
Welcome to the Forum @oakridgeboater! I noticed your name and I need to ask you if your from the Richmond Hill/Aurora area? I spent my pre teen years growing up in Oak Ridges.

I would get a survey done on the boat. You will need it anyway for boaters Insurance. I went with Aviva through a broker that gave me a bunch of options. Make sure all your safeties are up to date. Big ones are smoke and carbon monoxide detectors, make sure you get new fire extinguishers or have them checked if you don't know how to do a quick check yourself, powder usually settles at the bottom. Bang it on a hard surface and shake it upside down. Check the needle so that it's at the correct charge and also that no damage has been done to the trigger. You can do a balance check once you have shaken the powder around. If it's still stuck on the bottom of the cylinder it will fall that way (when balancing from the middle on a horizontal with one hand).

Re: Just bought 28' Riviera

Posted: December 16th, 2023, 9:39 pm
by oakridgeboater
Hi Jigjag,

I will start to get the stuff prepared that you mentioned. There are those systems in place now, but no idea if they are functional. I'll power it up over the next few days and see what's responsive. I just looked inside today for first time and rooted around for a couple of hours opening everything. I've got a few questions about the Riviera specifically if you have one?

I'm living in the Oakridge, but over near Mosport Raceway. Love it here, moved from the city and glad for it.

Re: Just bought 28' Riviera

Posted: December 16th, 2023, 10:38 pm
by Jigjag
I don't have a Riviera. Where will your home port be? I'm on Georgian Bay. I might be moving marinas next boating season.