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ok so my crusader 270 needed a carb rebuild so I puled the carb rebuilt it went to reinstall it realized there was a washer missing ….. so I pulled the carb took my scope camera and went through the intake and said well I don't see it .. installed the Carb. went to start it and it starts instant clanking noise so i turned it off ... now I ask what are the chances that things aren't that bad when I pull everything apart? smh

You are not the first believe me.....

Use your scope and go thru the spark plug holes and find the damaged cylinder.......hopefully the washer just slipped by the intake valve and put a couple dents in the piston........you will have to pull the head to check the valve for damage though IMO. You may be able to pull the washer out with a magnet if smaller than the plug hole and it is not stainless.

Still a chance although really really slim....good luck man...

bud37 wrote:Source of the post Use your scope and go thru the spark plug holes and find the damaged cylinder.......hopefully the washer just slipped by the intake valve and put a couple dents in the piston........you will have to pull the head to check the valve for damage though IMO. You may be able to pull the washer out with a magnet if smaller than the plug hole and it is not stainless.

Still a chance although really really slim....good luck man...

thanks that was my next move i had to walk away ... if i drank i would be drunk right now

not to worry: it's all mechanics so take it apart and put it together again. It takes more time than you thought it would but prepare, get the information, get the parts, gaskets, O-rings, washers.. = the more the better and do what needs to be done.

You'll be surprised to see (afterwards) that the mountain of worries and expectations about the job at hand turns out to be a much smaller hill afterwards.

Do you know what size the washer was? Is there any chance that it could come out through the spark plug hole?

What did it actually sound like? Is it possible it just got stuck in an intake valve and you're hearing the loose lifter/rocker noise? (that would be better, as it wouldn't have entered the cylinder yet!)

Popping a head off probably wouldn't really be that big of a deal if you didn't have to deal with that damn exhaust!!!

well i was limited with time today i managed to scope the cylinder there is damage on the piston surface damage the valve i can see a few dents in the bottom tomorrow the head comes off ….Km1125 the manifolds aren't a big deal 4 bolts and i set it to the side … now i just have to get that head off and inspect even more … I'm praying don't have to pull the block that would be a deal breaker

Phrancus wrote:Source of the post not to worry: it's all mechanics so take it apart and put it together again. It takes more time than you thought it would but prepare, get the information, get the parts, gaskets, O-rings, washers.. = the more the better and do what needs to be done.

You'll be surprised to see (afterwards) that the mountain of worries and expectations about the job at hand turns out to be a much smaller hill afterwards.

yeah im always like that with projects once i get started i realize its not so bad lol

Just read this. Feeling your pain, being a tech in automobile, I've seen this type of thing many times. Take your time, you'll get through this for sure. We always expect the worst, luck be on your side.

ataylor233 wrote:Source of the post well i was limited with time today i managed to scope the cylinder there is damage on the piston surface damage the valve i can see a few dents in the bottom tomorrow the head comes off ….Km1125 the manifolds aren't a big deal 4 bolts and i set it to the side … now i just have to get that head off and inspect even more … I'm praying don't have to pull the block that would be a deal breaker

If and when you get this open, before you close it up if not too much damage, round off all the dent damage on the piston and head so there are no sharp edges or raised burrs, they can create hot spots if left......good luck

Well here's what I found I thank God I stopped the engine when I did