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USCG #, Documentation, registration

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USCG #, Documentation, registration

Postby Seif911 » May 3rd, 2013, 9:54 am

Good Morning All,
I am in the process of getting my boat documented with the USCG. They said it was already documented and the number should be posted somewhere in the boat. I cannot figure out where it is. Does anybody have any idea where to look? They did give me the number but I want to make sure it is posted somewhere within.

Also, for documentation, you have to give the name and hailing port of the boat. This would be the key time to rename the boat, if I want to. Where do you go to get the name painted on your boat? I can't seem to find any places that will do it. Has anybody used the vinyl decals for your boat name? Any suggestions on where to buy that?

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Steve
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Re: USCG #, Documentation, registration

Postby YOLO » May 3rd, 2013, 10:15 am

There are a number of places were the number could be but the most common place is in the bilge, on a bulkhead or stringer. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/nvdc/nvdcfaq.asp#15

Any sign shop can do vinyl lettering for you, and put on the boat transom as well.
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Re: USCG #, Documentation, registration

Postby DanM » May 3rd, 2013, 10:21 am

Steve,

From the Coast Guard:

The official number assigned to documented vessels, preceded by the abbreviation "NO." must be marked in block-type Arabic numerals at least three inches high on some clearly visible interior structural part of the hull. The number must be permanently affixed so that alteration, removal, or replacement would be obvious and cause some scarring or damage to the surrounding hull area.

The name and hailing port of a recreational vessel must be marked together on some clearly visible exterior part of the hull. The vessel name of a commercial vessel must also be marked on the port and starboard bow and the vessel name and the hailing port must also be marked on the stern. All markings may be made by any means and materials that result in durable markings and must be at least four inches in height, made in clearly legible letters of the Latin alphabet or Arabic or Roman numerals. The "hailing port" must include both a place and a State, Territory, or possession of in the United States. The state may be abbreviated.

Decals are the easiest and most cost effective way of naming your boat. Places like BoatUS and a host of others offer the service to make them. Putting them on is relatively easy as long as you have patience and go easy on the caffeine.

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Re: USCG #, Documentation, registration

Postby Seif911 » May 3rd, 2013, 11:38 am

In the bilge? I would never have thought about looking there. I'll check it out.

I also will check out the boatus website for a new name. It would be nice to have our own name and our mooring port on it.

I believe the current name is painted on. Any Ideas how to remove the current painted name?
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Re: USCG #, Documentation, registration

Postby waybomb » May 3rd, 2013, 6:21 pm

Compounding it off with a Makita 9227 polisher and 3m heavy cut compound.

Some say ez-off oven cleaner. I've never tried and would certainly try it first in some hidden spot.

Have the sign shop make your new registration numbers as well. For the name, pick your own, something unique. Sign shops can even include pictures in the the decal.
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Re: USCG #, Documentation, registration

Postby AaHubb » May 3rd, 2013, 6:29 pm

Be fore warned! There can be serious problems if you don't follow the proper boat renaming customs. There are several versions but they all include copious amounts of alcohol offered to the gods of the sea. :approve:
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Re: USCG #, Documentation, registration

Postby waybomb » May 4th, 2013, 8:54 am

Yup, bad luck renaming a boat without proper pomp and circumstance........
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Re: USCG #, Documentation, registration

Postby Seif911 » May 5th, 2013, 8:36 am

You guys have me worried! I think we will probably leave it as is for now. We have 50 million others things to worry about. Thus far it is not legal to even drive it. Soon though :). The weather has been so bad that there less than 10 boats in the whole marina!
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Re: USCG #, Documentation, registration

Postby waybomb » May 5th, 2013, 10:22 am

Ceremony for Renaming Your Boat

By Capt. Pat

Everyone knows that renaming your boat will bring nothing but bad luck and make your boating experience something that you will want to forget. But what happens when, after months of searching, you find your dreamboat with a name that you just cannot live with. For example, my first love was a 28-foot Alden with the most beautiful lines I’d ever seen. She was named Perfidious. How could anything this graceful be named betrayer of trust? Well, I never bought her, but I often thought that if I had, I would have renamed her Magic, after my wife.

Renaming a boat is, of course, not something to be done lightly. Since the beginning of time, sailors have sworn that there are unlucky ships and the unluckiest ships of all are those who have defied the gods and changed their names. So, is there a way to change a name and not incur the wrath of those deities that rule the elements? Yes, Virginia, there is.

ccording to legend, each and every vessel is recorded by name in the Ledger of the Deep and is known personally to Poseidon, or Neptune, the god of the sea. It is logical therefore, if we wish to change the name of our boat, the first thing we must do is to purge its name from the Ledger of the Deep and from Poseidon’s memory.

This is an involved process beginning with the removal or obliteration of every trace of the boat’s current identity. This is essential and must be done thoroughly.

I once went through the ceremony after the owner had assured me that every reference to his boat’s old name had been purged from her. A couple of weeks later, he discovered he had missed a faded name on her floating key chain. I advised him to start over, perhaps with a little extra libation for the ruler of the sea. Unfortunately, he declined.

Since then, his boat has been struck by lightning, had its engine ruined by the ingress of the sea, been damaged by collision and finally sunk! It pays to be thorough.

In purging your boat, it is acceptable to use White-Out or some similar obliterating fluid to expunge the boat’s name from log books, engine and maintenance records etc., but it is much easier to simply remove the offending document from the boat and start afresh. Don’t forget the life rings and especially the transom and forward name boards.

Do not under any circumstances carry aboard any item bearing your boat’s new name until the purging and renaming ceremonies have been completed!

Once you are certain every reference to her old name has been removed from her, all that is left to do is to prepare a metal tag with the old name written on it in water-soluble ink. You will also need a bottle of reasonably good Champagne. Plain old sparkling wine won’t cut it. Since this is an auspicious occasion, it is a good time to invite your friends to witness and to party. Begin by invoking the name of the ruler of the deep as follows:

Oh mighty and great ruler of the seas and oceans, to whom all ships and we who venture upon your vast domain are required to pay homage, implore you in your graciousness to expunge for all time from your records and recollection the name (here insert the old name of your vessel) which has ceased to be an entity in your kingdom. As proof thereof, we submit this ingot bearing her name to be corrupted through your powers and forever be purged from the sea. (At this point, the prepared metal tag is dropped from the bow of the boat into the sea.)

In grateful acknowledgment of your munificence and dispensation, we offer these libations to your majesty and your court. (Pour at least half of the bottle of Champagne into the sea from East to West. The remainder may be passed among your guests.

It is usual for the renaming ceremony to be conducted immediately following the purging ceremony, although it may be done at any time after the purging ceremony. For this portion of the proceedings, you will need more Champagne, Much more because you have a few more gods to appease.Begin the renaming by again calling Poseidon as follows:

Oh mighty and great ruler of the seas and oceans, to whom all ships and we who venture upon your vast domain are required to pay homage, implore you in your graciousness to take unto your records and recollection this worthy vessel hereafter and for all time known as (Here insert the new name you have chosen), guarding her with your mighty arm and trident and ensuring her of safe and rapid passage throughout her journeys within your realm.

In appreciation of your munificence, dispensation and in honor of your greatness, we offer these libations to your majesty and your court. (At this point, one bottle of Champagne, less one glass for the master and one glass for the mate are poured into the sea from West to East.)

The next step in the renaming ceremony is to appease the gods of the winds. This will assure you of fair winds and smooth seas. Because the four winds are brothers, it is permissible to invoke them all at the same time, however, during the ceremony; you must address each by name. Begin in this manner:

Oh mighty rulers of the winds, through whose power our frail vessels traverse the wild and faceless deep, we implore you to grant this worthy vessel (Insert your boat’s new name) the benefits and pleasures of your bounty, ensuring us of your gentle ministration according to our needs.(Facing north, pour a generous libation of Champagne into a Champagne flute and fling to the North as you intone:) Great Boreas, exalted ruler of the North Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your frigid breath.(Facing west, pour the same amount of Champagne and fling to the West while intoning:) Great Zephyrus, exalted ruler of the West Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your wild breath.(Facing east, repeat and fling to the East.) Great Eurus, exalted ruler of the East Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your mighty breath.

(Facing south, repeat, flinging to the South.) Great Notus, exalted ruler of the South Wind, grant us permission to use your mighty powers in the pursuit of our lawful endeavors, ever sparing us the overwhelming scourge of your scalding breath.

Of course, any champagne remaining will be the beginnings of a suitable celebration in honor of the occasion.

Once the ceremony has been completed, you may bring aboard any and all items bearing the new name of your vessel. If you must schedule the painting of the new name on the transom before the ceremony, be sure the name is not revealed before the ceremony is finished. It may be covered with bunting or some other suitable material.
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Re: USCG #, Documentation, registration

Postby Seif911 » May 5th, 2013, 7:50 pm

Ok you convinced me to leave it as is. The 'Crystal Chalet'! It's not bad, we were thinking of 'Unbalanced', which suits us a little better (being I have 11 kids) :down:
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