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Toilet doesn't want to flush. Raritan Crown Head
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Topic author - Deck Hand
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Toilet doesn't want to flush. Raritan Crown Head
Mine looks like this picture but my hose goes into the tank with a 90 degree elbow instead of straight in like this picture
The set up in my boat is a refit from factory because the factory was a pump toilet and these are electric, so somewhere a long the line someone put these in. So if someone knows how they should be installed properly, you advice would be appreciated.
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Re: Toilet doesn't want to flush. Raritan Crown Head
The newer pump parts use a centrifugal impeller instead of a rubber vane impeller. When using the new impeller, there is a large rubber washer "wall" which creates the cavity for the impeller to work. Then outboard of that is a new style macerator.
If any of those three parts are not in good shape, I do not see how the thing could flush well.
A 90 degree turn cannot, in my mind, cause problems, especially if everything was working fine at one time.
What about the supply side? If you do not get enough water to help move everything along, it may not flush well either.
If it were me, I'd buy a complete rebuild kit (supply and discharge) and install it.
Fred
1969 Glaspar Avalon /1967 Johnson Electromatic 85
1987 Carver Mariner
1988 Cougar Kevlar 46' with triple blown 572 ci
1995 Boston Whaler Rage
Past - 1988 2807, 1989 4207 Aft
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Topic author - Deck Hand
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Re: Toilet doesn't want to flush. Raritan Crown Head
waybomb wrote:Did you replace the discharge impeller and macerator piece when you had it apart?
The newer pump parts use a centrifugal impeller instead of a rubber vane impeller. When using the new impeller, there is a large rubber washer "wall" which creates the cavity for the impeller to work. Then outboard of that is a new style macerator.
If any of those three parts are not in good shape, I do not see how the thing could flush well.
A 90 degree turn cannot, in my mind, cause problems, especially if everything was working fine at one time.
What about the supply side? If you do not get enough water to help move everything along, it may not flush well either.
If it were me, I'd buy a complete rebuild kit (supply and discharge) and install it.
My macerator is a HARD plastic one that has two blades on it, the rear one is larger than the front and they are in like new condition. I do believe there is a rubber washer behind them but I am not sure if it is the same thing you are referring to or not.
The Supply line gives tons of water if I turn it wide open. I can fill the bowl up almost instantly.
When I first replaced the Joker valve it was flushing perfectly for those 2 months and then went to crap and almost instantly went bad.
Could a Joker valve go bad that fast and make it flush badly that fast? The water is bleeding back into the bowl as well.
I changed from the standard
to the three way
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Re: Toilet doesn't want to flush. Raritan Crown Head
Fred
1969 Glaspar Avalon /1967 Johnson Electromatic 85
1987 Carver Mariner
1988 Cougar Kevlar 46' with triple blown 572 ci
1995 Boston Whaler Rage
Past - 1988 2807, 1989 4207 Aft
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Topic author - Deck Hand
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Re: Toilet doesn't want to flush. Raritan Crown Head
waybomb wrote:Check the vent line and fitting at tank. You may have overfilled the holding tank at one point and partially clogged the vent system.
That could be a possibility. I will check that for sure. I know I have filed it to the top once before.
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Re: Toilet doesn't want to flush. Raritan Crown Head
I did in the process of verifying operation have to grab a video of my Maceator in operation to make sure my set screws were still set and had not came loose like last time and the blades were still spinning.
I will appoligize for the gross content but here it is for those of you that want to see the maceator in action.
http://youtu.be/2kTb7bYJ4g4?list=UU9CT249I05DyxqKD1RpYfpQ
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Re: Toilet doesn't want to flush. Raritan Crown Head
You guys seem knowledgeable as to Raritan heads. I have a Jabsco toilet that lasted me nearly 10 years, but which has been having problems with insufficient flushing capabilities and consistently getting clogged...
I'm not very handy in this area, so unfortunately, have had to call the plumber several times, who last time suggested changing the head.
I've been looking into Raritan heads, but I see there are electrical and manual units, and different styles of each. If you were to purchase a new Raritan toilet, which model would you go with? https://citimarinestore.com/en/364-raritan-marine-toilets. In this particular case, considering the range of prices not ending up too high, price is not a problem.
Also, have you heard anything about Headhunter toilets? Ran into them at this years FLIBS, and seemed like a decent company. Have a friend who said I should go with them... any feedback on this would be much appreciated as well.
Thanks
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Re: Toilet doesn't want to flush. Raritan Crown Head
- JvilleJeremy68
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Re: Toilet doesn't want to flush. Raritan Crown Head
Man, that is a long laster! Definitely going forward with the purchase.Very reliable though, still original from '95. er
Seen a good bit about this model. Will be looking into it.the Marine Elegance
Thank you guys for the feedback, much appreciated.
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