Welcome to Carver Yachts Owners Forum

We are a boating forum for owners of Carver Yachts to enthusiastically discuss all aspects of Carver Boat ownership. Whether you are looking for your first Carver or currently own one, you are sure to feel at home on CarverYachtOwners.com

You are currently viewing our board as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to searching the forum topics, post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

Bonding Efficiency

Anything related to the operation of your boat. Steering, Bilge Pumps, thru-hulls, bottom paint, etc.
User avatar

Topic author United States of America
denpooch
Commander
Commander
Posts: 386
Joined: April 9th, 2017, 8:03 pm
Vessel Info: 2005 360 Mariner
Crusader 6.0 Captains Choice
Location: Long Island
Has thanked: 85 times
Been thanked: 87 times

Bonding Efficiency

Postby denpooch » October 29th, 2020, 1:26 pm

Hello Folks.
When I took her out this past week (the boat...not the admiral!) there were circular 'stains' surrounding any thru-hull fittings. It is my understanding that this indicates a level of galvanic corrosion and poor grounding.
I employ the use of zinc anodes on the shafts, trim tabs, each of the engines and there is a stern 'block' of zinc. Last season I gave the latter a good tightening.
Question: Is there a 'sure-fire' way to determine if the 'green' bonding wires inside the boat are actually doing their job? Those wires are attached to all thru-hull components as well as the engines. I believe that they terminate aft at the zinc block.
A guy at the yard said my boat was the worst of the lot and he tells me there is definitely a grounding issue with the boat.
What say you? Thanks.

User avatar

United States of America
km1125
Admiral
Admiral
Posts: 3624
Joined: February 28th, 2017, 6:04 pm
Has thanked: 78 times
Been thanked: 1093 times

Re: Bonding Efficiency

Postby km1125 » October 29th, 2020, 5:52 pm

You can measure resistance from any of the through-hulls to the common bonding on the boat to make sure they are all connected.

Canada
Viper
CYO Supporter
CYO Supporter
Posts: 6209
Joined: July 10th, 2015, 9:58 pm
Vessel Info: 1989 Carver 3807 Aft Cabin
Location: Ontario, Canada
Has thanked: 469 times
Been thanked: 1765 times

Re: Bonding Efficiency

Postby Viper » October 29th, 2020, 8:30 pm

Ya you can do a resistance reading. Voltage drop testing at connection points along the bonding system will also tell you if there are poor connections or wires. The voltage should be the same at all points. The point is that all the hardware is at the same electrical potential.

Make sure there are no bare DC wires or non-waterproof connections lying in water in the bilge such as bilge pump wiring.

Have you checked behind your breaker panel to see if you have a galvanic isolator?

Are your neighbours having the same problem? What is the condition of their anodes compared to yours? How often do you and them replace anodes?
User avatar

Italy
KeithS
Scurvy Dog
Scurvy Dog
Posts: 35
Joined: May 29th, 2020, 2:34 pm
Vessel Info: 2005 38SS
Location: Oceanport NJ
Been thanked: 23 times

Re: Bonding Efficiency

Postby KeithS » October 29th, 2020, 8:50 pm

Paint "halo: around the fittings may not indicate a corrosion issue. It is common with high copper paint and a slightly over-zinced boat. You can check with an ohmmeter to be sure you have less than one ohm from each fitting to your transom zinc, but if you have halos around all your underwater hardware, this is probably not your issue. The best way to be sure of a galvanic corrosion issue is to find an ABYC certified corrosion tech in your area and have him use a silver/silver chloride cell to test your boat in the water. Galvanic corrosion can be a complicated issue and there is a lot of bad advice around the dock.
User avatar

Canada
bud37
Admiral
Admiral
Posts: 5123
Joined: April 23rd, 2015, 10:22 pm
Has thanked: 598 times
Been thanked: 1281 times

Re: Bonding Efficiency

Postby bud37 » October 29th, 2020, 10:45 pm

I went thru this with our old boat,(a 350 Mariner) took me a lot of reading up and many hours testing to check and resolve all the bonding system. Got it in the end but very time consuming and it would be hard to explain simply in a forum setting.

Turns out it was the boat in the next slip dumping into the water. You can buy a reference electrode but like keith said, getting a certified proper tech to test things out is maybe the best route.
FWIW.....The above is just my opinion.
User avatar

Topic author United States of America
denpooch
Commander
Commander
Posts: 386
Joined: April 9th, 2017, 8:03 pm
Vessel Info: 2005 360 Mariner
Crusader 6.0 Captains Choice
Location: Long Island
Has thanked: 85 times
Been thanked: 87 times

Re: Bonding Efficiency

Postby denpooch » October 30th, 2020, 3:42 pm

Thanks everyone. Your advise is much appreciated.
User avatar

Topic author United States of America
denpooch
Commander
Commander
Posts: 386
Joined: April 9th, 2017, 8:03 pm
Vessel Info: 2005 360 Mariner
Crusader 6.0 Captains Choice
Location: Long Island
Has thanked: 85 times
Been thanked: 87 times

Re: Bonding Efficiency

Postby denpooch » October 30th, 2020, 4:51 pm

I just got back from the boat and took these images. Do we still agree with comments made? Anything else to think about?
Thanks again.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar

United States of America
km1125
Admiral
Admiral
Posts: 3624
Joined: February 28th, 2017, 6:04 pm
Has thanked: 78 times
Been thanked: 1093 times

Re: Bonding Efficiency

Postby km1125 » October 30th, 2020, 5:17 pm

That does not look good to me. I'd be cleaning everything off there and seeing if there's been material damage to any of the underlying metal.

Do you know what kind of bottom paint that is? Wonder if that could be some of the issue.
User avatar

Canada
bud37
Admiral
Admiral
Posts: 5123
Joined: April 23rd, 2015, 10:22 pm
Has thanked: 598 times
Been thanked: 1281 times

Re: Bonding Efficiency

Postby bud37 » October 30th, 2020, 5:40 pm

Have a look at this....Pascoe site with pics....

https://www.yachtsurvey.com/corrosion.htm
FWIW.....The above is just my opinion.

Return to “General Repairs & Maintenance”



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 24 guests